Queensryche - O:M pt. 2

[Leppard]

Questo è uno a cui il primo mindcrime dev'essere piaciuto parecchio...

http://www.queensryche.com/fans/images- ... e-back.jpg

è UN GRANDE:cornine:

[Cotlod]

volevo dire che hear in the now frontier ce l'ho originale (comprato usato). beh se non l'avessi originale forse non l'avrei ascoltato più di una volta, invece a sentirlo bene ci sono parecchi pezzi che meritano. Spool (l'ultima, come al solito-->) è un gran pezzo.

[Camp]

Spool (l'ultima, come al solito-->) è un gran pezzo.

Sì, è verissimo. Ma infatti i Queensryche hanno sempre inserito alla fine della track-list grandissimi pezzi. L'unica eccezione secondo me è rappresentata da Tribe ...

[LiquidShadow]

Sì, è verissimo. Ma infatti i Queensryche hanno sempre inserito alla fine della track-list grandissimi pezzi. L'unica eccezione secondo me è rappresentata da Tribe ...

quoto. Doin'fine non è brutta ma di sicuro non all'altezza degli altri finali capolavori. Ci sarebbe stata molto meglio "the art of life" come commentato in una recensione che lessi tempo fa.

e che dire riguardo a "the right side of my mind"? all'ultimo concerto è stata la canzone più cantata. Dal vivo è indimenticabile!

[Ghigliottina]

sto finalmente ascoltando con la dovuta attenzione THE WARNING... sti cazzi!

[Leppard]

sto finalmente ascoltando con la dovuta attenzione THE WARNING... sti cazzi!

hai detto poco

[Madball]

[LiquidShadow]

sto finalmente ascoltando con la dovuta attenzione THE WARNING... sti cazzi!

bel disco ma, come dire.... un pò vecchiotto!
Non accoltellatemi, è un gran disco, ma non lo trovo più molto ascoltabile adesso. Gia Rage For Order resiste molto meglio al tempo, anche se il primo disco veramente maturo e sempreverde è, a mio parere, Empire.

[Madball]

Beh, per me, "Empire" è l'apice compositivo dei Queensryche, anche più di "Promised Land".

[Leppard]

Beh, per me, "Empire" è l'apice compositivo dei Queensryche, anche più di "Promised Land".

x me dop OM EMPIRE è il disco che mi piace di più dei QUEENSRYCHE. un disco di classe sopraffina dall'inizio alla fine un BEST degli anni 90.

[Madball]

Questa la durata dei brani:

1) Freiheit Ouvertüre - 1:36 - Jackson/Slater/Stone
2) Convict - :08
3) I'm American - 2:53 - Slater/Stone/Tate
4) One Foot In Hell - 4:13 - Slater/Stone/Tate
5) Hostage - 4:30 - Jackson/Tate/Wilton
6) The Hands - 4:37 - Slater/Tate/Wilton
7) Speed Of Light - 3:12 - Slater/Stone/Tate
8) Signs Say Go - 3:17 - Slater/Stone/Tate
9) Re-arrange You - 3:11 - Slater/Stone/Tate
10) The Chase - 3:10 - Slater/Stone/Tate
11) Murderer? - 4:34 - Slater/Tate/Wilton
12) Circles - 2:59 - Jackson/Slater/Tate
13) If I Could Change It All - 4:28 - Slater/Stone/Tate
14) An Intentional Confrontation - 2:32 - Slater/Stone/Tate
15) A Junkie's Blues - 3:42 - Slater/Stone/Tate
16) Fear City Slide - 4:58 - Slater/Stone/Tate
17) All The Promises - 5:11 - Slater/Stone/Tate

[Madball]

Ecco un commento sul nuovo album estrapolato dal forum Breakdown Room:

"Ok, here's the thing... It's a REALLY strong album! Unbelievable
guitars throughout the whole thing. I mean, awesome riffs. Some killer dual
solos. Stuff they've been missing on their albums since before Empire.
And it's not just a few of them. Its like every song
And it's pretty damn heavy. Definitely heavier than anything they've done since the first Mindcrime. Im not talking heavy in terms of the heavy songs on their
later albums.. You know, that newer, cheesy type of heavy with crunchy
guitars... Im talking, Classic Queensryche kick ass tunes! A lot of
them!
Amazing vocals by Tate. He really sounds great. Not ear-piercing high
or anything. At times he sounds like he does on their later stuff. At
other times he sounds like he did 20 years ago. Its a good mix. There are
incredible backup vocals all over the place. Sometimes it's Tate
backing himself up. Sometimes it's the band. Sometimes it's Pamela Moore (she is all over the place on this album), and Sometimes I don't know who the
hell it is. But it's really rich and deep sounding throughout the entire
album. The lyrics are very intelligent and the story is wild. They
really put a lot into this album.
You can tell they intentionally and in subtle ways referenced the
original Mindcrime with guitar riffs. But they did it for very short times, and
changed them around. They did an amazing job at keeping the album
sounding entirely different, yet completely familiar. Sometimes you
will listen to a song and all of a sudden during the guitar solo you will
get that familiar feeling about the first Mindcrime. Then they change it
quick... If you listen to it a few more times, you will pickup where
they got it from. But it's usually very subtle. You've heard 'The Hands'
that uses the 'Breaking The Silence' riff. It's usually more subtle than
that.
It is a bit difficult to understand what Tate is saying. So having the
lyrics to put the whole thing together will be important. Having
headphones helps a lot.
My major complaint about this album is that the songs are too short.
Especially the really killer ones Sometimes you are digging
something so much, and then it's over much too quickly. You just want more...
But I guess that's a sign of great material.
Also, the songs by themselves are not as strong as the original album.
There is no Eyes of a Stranger, or The Mission. Those hooks and killer
choruses that you cant stop listening to and singing are in short
supply on this album. Its not nearly as catchy. But it's FAR more complex
than the original. There is a ton more going on all the time. So I guess
what Im trying to say is that for individual song quality and repeatability,
the first Mindcrime is much better. The Hands is probably one of the
catchier tunes on the album.
But this album isnt really about that.. This is more of a story. It really needs to be listened to like a movie. From start to finish. Individually the songs are great, but together its really intense. 3 or 4 songs buildup to a tune with Tate and Dio that is by far the coolest thing Ive heard in a long time. That tune is
unbelievably good. I mean, these two guys go back and forth throughout
the entire song, and its just sick. They both sound amazing on this album, and you almost have to wonder why all these 'metal gods' dont do this stuff on albums more often. This song alone makes the album worth buying.
Basically, the album starts with some catchy, hard edged, rock tunes.
Then as the album progresses, the complexity of the songs increases.
It just keeps increasing until the end of the album. There is so much
going on in some of the songs, that you really need good headphones to
hear everything. This is not Mindcrime I. Mindcrime I was (to me) a
collection of really awesome rock songs that loosely tells a story.
This album is more of an overall listening experience

Old fans might not like it as much. It doesnt have a Suite Sister
Mary, or an Eyes of a Stranger. But they will like it! They will probably
love it! It takes a bunch of listens to digest and figure out.

Listening to this album almost makes it upsetting that Queensryche
could've been doing this stuff for the last 3 or 4 albums. They were
obviously being very lazy, because this album is light years better
than all of them combined!

So basically, this is far from Mindcrime I. The style is different,
and it has a more recent Queensryche feel to it. But it also has a ton of
the old Queensryche feel as well. That mixed with killer vocals, an
amazing story, and simply incredible guitars makes this album incredibly good.
Not to mention an emotional roller coaster. They really are good at
bringing emotion to their music.

[Leppard]

Ecco un commento sul nuovo album estrapolato dal forum Breakdown Room:

"Ok, here's the thing... It's a REALLY strong album! Unbelievable
guitars throughout the whole thing. I mean, awesome riffs. Some killer dual
solos. Stuff they've been missing on their albums since before Empire.
And it's not just a few of them. Its like every song
And it's pretty damn heavy. Definitely heavier than anything they've done since the first Mindcrime. Im not talking heavy in terms of the heavy songs on their
later albums.. You know, that newer, cheesy type of heavy with crunchy
guitars... Im talking, Classic Queensryche kick ass tunes! A lot of
them!
Amazing vocals by Tate. He really sounds great. Not ear-piercing high
or anything. At times he sounds like he does on their later stuff. At
other times he sounds like he did 20 years ago. Its a good mix. There are
incredible backup vocals all over the place. Sometimes it's Tate
backing himself up. Sometimes it's the band. Sometimes it's Pamela Moore (she is all over the place on this album), and Sometimes I don't know who the
hell it is. But it's really rich and deep sounding throughout the entire
album. The lyrics are very intelligent and the story is wild. They
really put a lot into this album.
You can tell they intentionally and in subtle ways referenced the
original Mindcrime with guitar riffs. But they did it for very short times, and
changed them around. They did an amazing job at keeping the album
sounding entirely different, yet completely familiar. Sometimes you
will listen to a song and all of a sudden during the guitar solo you will
get that familiar feeling about the first Mindcrime. Then they change it
quick... If you listen to it a few more times, you will pickup where
they got it from. But it's usually very subtle. You've heard 'The Hands'
that uses the 'Breaking The Silence' riff. It's usually more subtle than
that.
It is a bit difficult to understand what Tate is saying. So having the
lyrics to put the whole thing together will be important. Having
headphones helps a lot.
My major complaint about this album is that the songs are too short.
Especially the really killer ones Sometimes you are digging
something so much, and then it's over much too quickly. You just want more...
But I guess that's a sign of great material.
Also, the songs by themselves are not as strong as the original album.
There is no Eyes of a Stranger, or The Mission. Those hooks and killer
choruses that you cant stop listening to and singing are in short
supply on this album. Its not nearly as catchy. But it's FAR more complex
than the original. There is a ton more going on all the time. So I guess
what Im trying to say is that for individual song quality and repeatability,
the first Mindcrime is much better. The Hands is probably one of the
catchier tunes on the album.
But this album isnt really about that.. This is more of a story. It really needs to be listened to like a movie. From start to finish. Individually the songs are great, but together its really intense. 3 or 4 songs buildup to a tune with Tate and Dio that is by far the coolest thing Ive heard in a long time. That tune is
unbelievably good. I mean, these two guys go back and forth throughout
the entire song, and its just sick. They both sound amazing on this album, and you almost have to wonder why all these 'metal gods' dont do this stuff on albums more often. This song alone makes the album worth buying.
Basically, the album starts with some catchy, hard edged, rock tunes.
Then as the album progresses, the complexity of the songs increases.
It just keeps increasing until the end of the album. There is so much
going on in some of the songs, that you really need good headphones to
hear everything. This is not Mindcrime I. Mindcrime I was (to me) a
collection of really awesome rock songs that loosely tells a story.
This album is more of an overall listening experience

Old fans might not like it as much. It doesnt have a Suite Sister
Mary, or an Eyes of a Stranger. But they will like it! They will probably
love it! It takes a bunch of listens to digest and figure out.

Listening to this album almost makes it upsetting that Queensryche
could've been doing this stuff for the last 3 or 4 albums. They were
obviously being very lazy, because this album is light years better
than all of them combined!

So basically, this is far from Mindcrime I. The style is different,
and it has a more recent Queensryche feel to it. But it also has a ton of
the old Queensryche feel as well. That mixed with killer vocals, an
amazing story, and simply incredible guitars makes this album incredibly good.
Not to mention an emotional roller coaster. They really are good at
bringing emotion to their music.

in breve che dice

[Madball]

Che gli è piaciuto e che è molto diverso dal primo Mindcrime, per cui molti fans della prima ora potrebbero inizialmente trovarsi un po' spiazzati salvo poi apprezzarlo dopo più attenti ascolti.

[Leppard]

Che gli è piaciuto e che è molto diverso dal primo Mindcrime, per cui molti fans della prima ora potrebbero inizialmente trovarsi un po' spiazzati salvo poi apprezzarlo dopo più attenti ascolti.

grazie:violet: inizia il conto alla rovescia.

[Baker]

Speriamo, speriamo. Sono 10 anni che non compro un album dei 'Ryche....

[Leppard]

Speriamo, speriamo. Sono 10 anni che non compro un album dei 'Ryche....

:zomping: dai sento che questa sarà la volta buona:wiz:

[Ktulu]

Sono disponibili samples di 3 nuovi brani:

http://redeye.9squared.com/realtonelist ... orID=13893

Nonostante siano bravissimi non sembrano male!

[URIZEN]

Per quel poco che si sente, mi pare che siano buoni i semi pezzi.
Cmq ultimamente sto riascoltando Tribe con piacere.

[Baker]

Sono disponibili samples di 3 nuovi brani:

http://redeye.9squared.com/realtonelist ... orID=13893

Nonostante siano bravissimi non sembrano male!

"bravissimi" o "brevissimi"? :hi:

[LiquidShadow]

now playing... :rambo:


devo dire che per ora posso quotare tutto quello scritto in quella recensione.
L'unica cosa sulla quale nn sono daccordo è sulla compattezza del concept. Secondo il recensore il primo Mindcrime aveva canzoni un pò troppo scollegate rispetto al successore... mah, semmai il contrario

[LiquidShadow]

dimenticavo, sound davvero inedito per i Ryche, nonostante i riferimenti al primo episodio siano evidenti

cmq, vedremo se supererà il test del tempo...

[Ktulu]

"bravissimi" o "brevissimi"? :hi:

[truestargazer77]

Speriamo, speriamo. Sono 10 anni che non compro un album dei 'Ryche....

Immagino che continuerai a non comprarli, anche se probabilmente OM2 ti piacerà un po' più degli ultimi lavori...

[Madball]

A breve un primo ascolto dell'album...

[truestargazer77]

A breve un primo ascolto dell'album...

Facci sapere che ne pensi!!!

Io credo sia un buon album, ma non riesco a capire veramente quanto... e lo ho ascoltato almeno una decina di volte...

[Madball]

Per caso hai già ascoltato anche il nuovo dei Vanden Plas?

P.S. : il nuovo dei "The Tangent" rulla sempre di più!:cornine:

[truestargazer77]

Per caso hai già ascoltato anche il nuovo dei Vanden Plas?

P.S. : il nuovo dei "The Tangent" rulla sempre di più!:cornine:

Purtroppo no...

P.s.

[ROCCIA]

P.S. : il nuovo dei "The Tangent" rulla sempre di più!:cornine:

Stupendo,lo sto sentendo ora x la quarta volta,sempre piu' bello.

[TheMoor]

Dopo un paio di ascolti mi pare di poter dire che la classe non è acqua.
Poi si vedrà.

[Madball]

Appena terminato il primo ascolto, per il momento non rilascio alcun commento a riguardo.

[LiquidShadow]

Appena terminato il primo ascolto, per il momento non rilascio alcun commento a riguardo.

sono curioso di sentire il tuo parere Mad... io ancora nn sono in grado di dare un primo parere complessivo, nonostante mi sia un po' sbilanciato prima

[Madball]

Una cosa, comunque, credo sia abbastanza chiara: da un punto di vista prettamente musicale non c'entra nulla, o quasi, col primo. E ciò credo sia stato un atto di coraggio da parte della band.
Sul resto, come detto prima, non me la sento ancora di esprimere un parere.

[Amaranth]

Una cosa, comunque, credo sia abbastanza chiara: da un punto di vista prettamente musicale non c'entra nulla, o quasi, col primo. E ciò credo sia stato un atto di coraggio da parte della band.

Su questo non avevo dubbi. Sono una grande band soprattutto per questo motivo.

[truestargazer77]

Una cosa, comunque, credo sia abbastanza chiara: da un punto di vista prettamente musicale non c'entra nulla, o quasi, col primo. E ciò credo sia stato un atto di coraggio da parte della band.
Sul resto, come detto prima, non me la sento ancora di esprimere un parere.

Beh... i richiami ci sono e sono evidenti, ma in linea di massima il sound non c'entra nulla, vero.

Certo che se ci fosse stato De Garmo alla chitarra alcuni brani avrebbero suonato molto O:MI, secondo me.

Letta la track by track di Purrone su Rock Hard? Io la sottoscrivo quasi in toto...

[link]

sono curioso di sentire il tuo parere Mad... io ancora nn sono in grado di dare un primo parere complessivo, nonostante mi sia un po' sbilanciato prima

[moonlit knight]

Sentito...

Ne riparliamo fra una decina di giorni (come minimo)

[TheMoor]

Forse fra una decina di anni...
Dopo altri ascolti le impressioni continuano a essere positive, ma non so fino a quanto...

[Madball]

Se devo essere sincero, i miei primi due ascolti non sono stati affatto positivi...

[moonlit knight]

Io sono perplesso... l'ho ascoltato una sola volta e mi è rimasto poco.

Non credo sia un buon segno...